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Nagual LoneWolf |
Re: Physical arenas do matter. Very much. | ||
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Posts: 6382 (05/31/07 15:58:25) Visitor |
One can put their body's assemblage point on the spot of the double's. Thus you align both aps and then you will enter the third attention of being in both points at once and being aware of them at the same time through what is called a triple ap but it really is two aligned.
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SSilhouette |
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Warrior
Posts: 292 (06/17/07 19:21:25) Warrior |
Quote: This NDE illustrates a drastic dusting of this woman's link. In one moment she acheived what it takes some warriors a lifetime to get to. "The Reailty Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."
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cskauddie2hottie(d) |
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Posts: 24 (06/18/07 13:37:09) |
My when are you? Reading intent?
Chapter's 3,4,6,7 12, and 14 in Sepeerate, my first reading goes like this-- Here's my report on Papa's book A Separate Reality By CarlosCastaneda. Actually it took me forty long days and nights to read it entirely correct. When i'm reading intent Part I act out all these diametrically opposed persons and it was a blast. As in the above said chapters, doing those, for the piss of it. Was to warm the touch but didn't quench my thirst. CskAud didnt't. My separate reality began on 5-07-07 when I awokened from dreamless sleep. In the month of the numerous ones. In my room tonight. . . . To talk about the nagual is one thing. But there's a super place in heaven that's blue, blue, blue. Such a peaceful blue morning was this one. I took Sills advice and got the dog-eared copy for 7 spending dollars. The bookstore owner was quite nice... so as to enhancer of awareness i says to YOU midnight blue....thanks Ssil. When are you? I found myself falling asleep in public. Which is not one of my fortes; like a man said. And I said , 'Don't go no where without your brujo hat' And carefully folded my pants over my chair. And fell asleep. YOU awokened from dreamless sleep. 'Damn Grandpa, chewing payola cut and dried-cut my mouth to shreds .. tastes like hell. I'm not going to wait three hours for my food.' "Yeah, Grandpa" she said. Such is this life.. Such is this understanding Ayedo Wedo Because I'm Lucio Flores an ex-merchant marine and I'm don Juancho's oldest grandson can't you see.. Part II !@ years later No woman no girl. No names for it . No honor . No dignity . No family. Just life to be lived. BELIEVE IT NEVER HAPPENED And lastly when Papa took the alli by the hand that pitched it and did the penultimate thing. He disapppeared in thin air I says. I bet you fifty dollars it is as I have said. (50 U.S dollars) Not just for one month but the whole forty days. Yes he did. She yelled this. She said that TO ME. "( I was signed Nasty, gross !)" Such was the power of papa's reality. Such is this life. More on this day later. Watch this. This. HottieScottie
king of the brujos Oldest and most knowledgeable campaignon to don Kirk Because I'm Happy Horse the First aircraft engineer |
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SSilhouette |
Forced Scouting? | ||
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Warrior
Posts: 292 (06/19/07 16:11:30) Warrior |
Quote: It appears that many of the NDEs are like forced scouting expeditions where selected people are given messages to return to the rest of us. Don Juan called these people "scouts" or "couriers" I think. "The Reailty Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."
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Nagual LoneWolf |
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Seer
Posts: 6382 (06/19/07 22:39:56) Visitor |
Powerful dreaming...the Foregn Energy was powerful, what do you think of this dreaming Aranno?
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Bob May |
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Seer
Posts: 908 (06/26/07 09:03:43) Bright Flame |
""but it heavily depends on how you interpret it. If I were
a christian, I would probably agree more with your interpretations then I am now."" We have several bodies, layered like onions. Each, a vehicle that carries us and functions on specific planes. There is a spiritual realm where a body is not present and if you reach it you are one with the surrounding intelligent energy. There, there is no interpretation. reality at whatever level it is is Known. To wake up to what is REAL is what Jesus came to teach us. To open our eyes. Grace and TRUTH is what he brought. Just as Don Juan's purpose was to teach us to SEE, though I believe Jesus' teaching go so much further. "Seek and you shall find,..and ask and you shall receive.." is a "magical formula" that works. Seek that place where you shall know even as you are known. Ask for that pure spiritual knowledge where there is no interpretation. There is no fear of death after you reach a certain level of SEEING because you are visiting some of those realms that you will be experiencing after the death of this most gross body that we are presently using as a vehicle. We are spirit caught within this body of flesh. The reality that we experience here is only a shadow of what is to come. I choose to experience as much and as many of those realms while I am stil in this flesh and bone body. Why not? It is an adventure and makes this life interesting... Until I shake off this coat and continue on the "Great Adventure" ahead. Bob
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Bob May |
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Seer
Posts: 908 (06/26/07 09:14:57) Bright Flame |
By the way, The Gospel of Thomas is a very good book to read in that it illustrates Jesus' teachings on opening our awareness, or "Seeing".
You might call it the "not doing" of Jesus. It instucts Thomas how to look at the world around him. It was disovered in the 1940's with the Nag Hammadi scrolls in Egypt. The same teachings are also in the New Testament, of course, but this particular book is more straight forward and deals directly with "Seeing" in my opinion. It is short and to the point. Bob
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SSilhouette |
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Warrior
Posts: 292 (06/26/07 12:28:35) Warrior |
I would really like to see you post some of the stuff from the lost gospels as long as it didn't take on an evangelical flavor. I too believe that Jesus was a sorcerer of incredible means for his day. But don't be so quick to say he excelled where all others failed. He just got a lot of press. There have been many adept sorcerers through time who have healed and helped their fellow mankind.
I wouldn't mind seeing a whole forum dedicated to the Gnostic Gospel teachings. Therein was taught the self-empowerment and realization of personal energy as relates to the nagual. And hence the reason the foreign installation of the time (The "redactors") disallowed their inclusion in the christian Bible. Those fliers have been around for a darn long time. "The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."
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Bob May |
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Posts: 908 (06/26/07 16:27:23) Bright Flame |
"..But don't be so quick to say he excelled where all others failed. He just got a lot of press. There have been many adept sorcerers through time who have healed and helped their fellow mankind."
I said nothing about failure. I said his teachings went further than Don Juan's. You are correct that there have been a lot of adepts who have healed and helped. I was taught by one for 14 years. Jesus did get a lot of press. It started at least 4000 years before he arrived in a body and continues to this day. I am no scholar on the scrolls, but I have read a few. A few that I am very suspicious of and two in particular that I am very impressed with. One, I've already mentioned is the "Gospel of Thomas" and the other is the "Gospel of Truth", purportedly by a man called Valentinius. The "proof of the pudding is in the eating", as they say and I have experienced certain things over the years that later, I have seen written in books. Strange things that could not be easily described. When, later I see those things written by people who did not know me or even live in the same century as I do, I put great stock in what else those people have to say. The "Journey to Ixtlan" is one of those books as is the Bible, both Old and New Testaments. But the greatest of these is the Bible. It is the only book that has spoken to me "Real Time". I guess that is why Paul calls the OT the "Oracles of God." Cause it speaks to you. As far as Evangelical goes, I don't belong to a church, so I would not know which one to recommend. I'm just sharing some insights and experiences. Bob
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SSilhouette |
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Warrior
Posts: 292 (06/26/07 23:17:40) Warrior |
The Bible, to me is mostly useless. It's antiquated and reads like crap.
Who can relate to all the gibberish and old customs? It's too far of a reach. CC's stuff is way more relateable, more contemporary and gives real practical tools for accessing the types of 'miracles' the sorcerer Jesus performed with impeccability. The Bible just reeks of old jewish taboo, bigoted roman customs and dead-ends of every description. Moreover, CC didn't feel free to disenfranchise half the human population in his depiction of reaching for impeccability. I'm sure Jesus' original teachings were really something. Too bad about half of them never made it to public airing, thanks to the Italian mafiosos in the Vatican. Screw them and that damned book they wave around and expect people to kiss..the mafia have a custom of kissing the headman's ring. Coincidence? I think not. Anyway, I still would like to see the Gospel's they cast out. Abe's good at posting links...Abe? "The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."
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Bob May |
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Seer
Posts: 908 (06/27/07 08:19:12) Bright Flame |
"The Bible, to me is mostly useless."
That is true, but only because you approach it with the same attitude as those you (as did Jesus, by the way) dissapprove of. Where Don Juan said be impeccable, Jesus said be ye perfect. Where Don Juan said look at the spaces between the leaves, Jesus said turn the other cheek. And consider the ravens who neither sow nor reap yet God provides for them. It is not a book of rules and regulations. It is a book of expanding awareness. Where Don Genero appeared to Carlos in the form of his double, he was not able to eat. When Jesus appeared in a locked room among his disciples, he ate fish. A higher order of magic being that he manifested a completely physical body. Paul and Phillip also did the same thing. Dissapearing in one place and manifesting in another. Jesus did the same thing with a boatload of disciples, boat and all. The Catholics did not appear on the scene as a full blown organisation until 400 AD. But there were plenty of "bad guys" in Jesus time. The Romans, the Pharisses, Saducees, Lawyers, etc. Jesus never had a good thing to say to those religious leaders. He showed them for what they were. That is about as contemporary as you can get. We are surrounded by their contemporaries. The Catholic church being one of them, which has a lot in common with the Roman Empire AND the religious leaders. Nothing has changed in that regard. Everyone has an agenda. To use a Holy Book to control the masses is not a new trick. I see it at work here in some of the other forums, using Don Juan's teachings to gain a following in order to control people. Or as the Jesus put it; "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! For you compass sea and land to make one proselyte, (convert) and when he is made you make him two-fold more the child of hell than yourselves." Don't blame the Book for informing us of the dangers of the fliers. They have been around forever and they only have so many tricks. Jesus points out those tricks so that we will recognise the enemy when the enemy is there. Don't kill the messenger. Don't blame the book because some use it for evil ends. Bob
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seeitall |
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Warrior
Posts: 493 (06/27/07 11:45:32) Warrior |
Hi Bob ,
what's your opinion about old testament. I mean this jealous God that prefers only one nation, that is Jews. -------------------- there is always something |
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ninnshinn c skaud |
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Posts: 10 (06/27/07 13:24:18) Banned User |
Jesus was a nagual. He saw into the Spirit.
Sir please , sir Thomasing's 'Gnostic' as Bob-She-Bob [put] into it is the first five books called the 'Pentatuech' I, sho Paul slave to Christ. Slaves to intent said "That which I have done unto you I do no know And that which I do no know I do" Something.. something.. something...like that! per Bob-She -Bob May's pernmission. " That which I do I do not do and that which I do not do I do" The apostle Paul said. Every word of the Bible is true. 'We don't believe in I can't' I only believe in what I see. The Bigot man's way. My way, the correct way. Believe It Never Happened/ Enough Said ON That |
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SSilhouette |
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Warrior
Posts: 292 (06/27/07 16:12:25) Warrior |
*yawn*
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................. "The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."
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seeitall |
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Warrior
Posts: 493 (06/28/07 05:56:21) Warrior |
Quote: hmm, maybe that was his physical body. In the power of silence DJ died on the field and was buried. Isn't that quite similar what happened to Jesus. What I don't get is why he choose to die on the cross. Any ideas ? I don't think it was because of redeeming us from our sins ? -------------------- there is always something |
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Aranno Way |
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Seer
Posts: 508 (06/28/07 06:48:53) |
Good question I often wonder about.
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SSilhouette |
Mind over matter | ||
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Warrior
Posts: 292 (06/28/07 08:47:25) Warrior |
I see it as an act of example to others. That being: physical suffering is nothing compared to spiritual suffering. And that if the spirit is strong, shining and its link to the spirit in top working order, the warrior (or insert era-appropriate equivalent inventory name) can withstand anything and come out on top.
Back to NDEs, this one might shed light on a secret Jesus was experiencing while nailed, bleeding and slowly suffocating to death.. Quote: This might be explained by shifing the AP to a place where pain no longer matters. The "angel" might simply be a "nagual" who helped her shift her AP away from that physical realm just before the car struck her so that the overall impact to her was minimized. It also seems to support my contention that we are always surrounded by "helpers" who are assisting us from another AP. (that's "Assemblage Point for those new here) "The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."
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Aranno Way |
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Seer
Posts: 508 (06/28/07 21:50:40) |
Now that you mentioned it I remember in the latter C.C books that D.J. stated to C.C. that they all died at one time and D.J. told C.C. that he did the same.
Can anyone provide any reference to D.J.'s statement about this because it just was not one member of the warrior party to have this happen? I really have to buy all the books except for a few "again" because I let someone use them and did not get them back. Since I read them so many times I guess buying them again has been getting old but will be new again soon. |
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seeitall |
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Warrior
Posts: 493 (06/29/07 03:48:24) Warrior |
Quote: I sure don't remember that. What I remember is DJ stated there are 3 ways how to get rid of self importance. One of it was to die like DJ did. -------------------- there is always something |
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Bob May |
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Seer
Posts: 908 (06/29/07 12:06:24) Bright Flame |
Hi Bob ,
what's your opinion about old testament. I mean this jealous God that prefers only one nation, that is Jews. The Jews were the "chosen People". They were chosen to be the race or nation that the Messiach was born into. He had to be a man, so he had to come through some nation. If God had chosen the Irish we would be asking the same question about them. They were a good choice because they also had to keep the secret code books perfectly intact. This they did. These books of hidden knowledge (it had to be hidden or would have been destroyed) are what we call the Old Testament. These books are about Jesus if you look past the obvious stories to the analogies behind those stories. The hidden meanings. In the jewish first passover blood was applied to the doorposts of the Jews in Egypt when the angel of death came and killed all of Egypt's first-born. Then the angel of death "Passed Over" all of the firstborn among the Jews. That symbol (two doorposts and a lintel across the top) is the shape of the Hebrew letter TAU. The letter TAU means CROSS. Get it? They were saved by blood on a cross!!! Also, the Old Testament Law states that; "Cursed is everyone that Hangeth On A Tree". Jesus became a curse so that all men could receive a blessing. The Harsh Law of the O.T. came about because the Hebrews asked for it!!! They were afraid of the Nagual, the Unmanifest Creator. They asked Moses to deal with Him and said, basically;... "You go talk to Him and we will do what ever He says. We don't want to talk to Him." So, God, the Nagual made the Law. But the Nagual, mercifull as his true nature is Hid Within this Law the keys to unlocking deeper meanings. Hidden meanings to show the way to the Nagual to those who do want to experience the Unknown. Whether they be Jews, Irish, Arabs or Native Americans it matters not. All that matters is a path with heart and intent. Or, as Jesus said; "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." Thou shalt not; Commit adultery, murder, steal, lie, covet are not commandments if you look deeper at them. They are a prophecy of how God will change your nature as you grow more deeply involved in the mystical/Nagual side of existance rather than the physical/Tonal side. Those things are promises, Not rules and regulations. That is the meaning of the "Circumcision of the Heart" as Paul puts it. Removing of the flesh to reveal the inner side of things. "Seeing" rather than looking at the World AND the Book. The "Curse" started with a Tree,...The "Tree of the knowledge of good and Evil" that Mankind (Adam) ate of (and the fruit was death). The "Curse" had to end on a Tree,... at Golgotha where the harsh Old Testament Law was crucified and done away with also. Where the Curse of the "First Adam" (Mankind caught up in the Tonal) was paid in full by the "Second Adam" (Caught up in Spirit or Nagual) By dying he lifted the curse. The greatest act of "Sympathetic Magic" in the history of Material Existence. My opinion. Take it or leave it, but it would be good to consider it. But taken as a whole, Both the Old and New Testaments together, there are more "Tales of Power" and Qabalistic Magic written there than in any other collection of such stories ever put down on paper or parchment. Anyone interested in any type of Magic would be, in my opinion, ill advised to ignore such a wealth of information. Bob
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