The Integrity Of Lujan

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ARNWAY	The Integrity Of Lujan	Lead	[-]
Seer Posts: 500 (06/13/09 02:13:22) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I went on Lujan's site at his request and was respectful and was not malicious in anyway and was attacked by his members that I was full of shit that what I did was not true dreaming at all but the result of me doing mushrooms and that I needed help, this put me on the defence because he and his members are not correct with there assumptions about me and he and his members tried to systematically discount everything that I mentioned along with Lone Wolf and while I pointed out my objective, direction and my intent in a very nice or non malicious approach "they" still were rude, malicious and hateful and then they "BANNED ME" after having a thread about me under the category "Controlled Folly" with 187 "Replies" and 2228 views. Just go on Lujan's site and check it out as this will be a reflection of his true intent with his members unless he deleted it and if he did this would clearly show that he has no "Integrity" at all because he is weak and is trying to hide his weakness because of his "Self Importance" as being or playing the role of "God" with his judgement as being a "So Called Asian Nagual" that is above Juan Matus in stature. Also to he will deny you the freedom to edit your own post which is a reflection of his true actions.
lucky.parallelperception		#1	[-]
Visitor Posts: 1 (06/13/09 05:39:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ARNWAY wrote: I went on Lujan's site at his request and was respectful and was not malicious in anyway and was attacked by his members that I was full of shit that what I did was not true dreaming at all but the result of me doing mushrooms and that I needed help ... Also to he will deny you the freedom to edit your own post which is a reflection of his true actions. Mark, You were invited to return, along with all the other previous members who were permanently banned in the past. That is not the same as having your presence being requested. You were not that respectful in my opinion. You were given every opportunity to respond to the probing (not attacking) of other members, yet your defensiveness and tactic of posting incomprehensible entries from your diary instead of answering questions reveals your lack of communication skill. What are we if we cannot communicate effectively? As far as I know you were not banned. Closing that thread was to your benefit, as you are unable to deal with what was being presented. Not having the freedom to edit your own posts means you need to be clear or face consequences of uncontrolled emotional responses that reveal you. If everyone was allowed the ability to edit their posts it would be impossible to encourage personal integrity. For instance, on this forum Lone Wolf edits posts (including those of other members and even months after the fact) in order to alter the flow and make things appear other than they really are. You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think. Christopher Robin to Pooh (AA Milne)
Mornings Son		#2	[-]
Seer Posts: 761 (06/13/09 05:52:38) Servant of Spirit Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hey Arnway I can't go and see as I out of the blue was banned the 8 may and no one will reply my PM's where I ask why... anyway it seems that I would have wasted my time had I had the chance to be there. So I am thankful after all. Thanks for banning me - whoever did it! Well a question - Did Lujan respond to your posts? Maybe he is stalking his own members to let them see how there negative ways of communication is? What was the intent of unbanning people by the way? When One let go of ALL judgment Peace and Serenity flows in the Moment
ARNWAY		#3	[-]
Seer Posts: 501 (06/13/09 15:37:13) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I did communicate with Lujan and other members and chosen to answer questions that were worth answering because allot of questions were irrelevant or very personal that is none of there business like about my childhood. The fact is "Lucky" you and Jonilith AKA Kyle you two were down right rude along with Lujan and Lujan and Tiffany stating over and over that Wolf is not a nagual and what Wolf says is false and is dishonest and kept repeating that Wolf is full of "Shit" along with myself. I and Wolf went there and were brutally attacked.
Mornings Son		#4	[-]
Seer Posts: 767 (06/14/09 23:52:05) Servant of Spirit Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Lucky wrote Mark, You were invited to return, along with all the other previous members who were permanently banned in the past. That is not the same as having your presence being requested. You were not that respectful in my opinion. You were given every opportunity to respond to the probing (not attacking) of other members, yet your defensiveness and tactic of posting incomprehensible entries from your diary instead of answering questions reveals your lack of communication skill. What are we if we cannot communicate effectively? As far as I know you were not banned. Closing that thread was to your benefit, as you are unable to deal with what was being presented. Not having the freedom to edit your own posts means you need to be clear or face consequences of uncontrolled emotional responses that reveal you. If everyone was allowed the ability to edit their posts it would be impossible to encourage personal integrity. For instance, on this forum Lone Wolf edits posts (including those of other members and even months after the fact) in order to alter the flow and make things appear other than they really are. Easy Wolf, please. There is not reason to state what is obvious. What is a True Nagual? Let us know so it is clear why Lujan is a false one. How wonderful the snow! Each flake falls in its place
PerSyd		#5	[-]
Seer Posts: 1265 (06/15/09 13:42:17) EXORCIST Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Since he cannot reply, guess the topic is useless. I never like this kind of shit banned people cannot reply MS, might or might not be true. PerSyd
Nagual LoneWolf		#6	[-]
Seer Posts: 5976 (06/15/09 15:00:19) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	AT this point, a warning to all and any PP members who come here and make statements that are false, in which case you will be banned as I was from your forum. I went there inpeace and by invitation and was banned again for no reason or cause but I will not let such behavior come into this forum. Be civil and all will be well.
Mornings Son		#7	[-]
Seer Posts: 769 (06/15/09 21:30:02) Servant of Spirit Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Lujan! As I can't PM you I can only post here Thanks for the kind PM, but you are wrong that im not banned! here is what I can read when I try to go to PP Sorry your IP address has been banned. If you think this was a mistake please message one of the community admins to unban your ip address: (don't wanna post it) Look into if you want. **** Is Lucky banned and Lujan too? If so will you PerSyd take my message over to PP? Wings, Darkness & Shooting Star We are here to become what can't be named
Mornings Son		#8	[-]
Seer Posts: 770 (06/16/09 04:36:20) Servant of Spirit Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Unbanned!! Weee chance to read the exchange that lead to banning of others... - now the question remains why was I banned? Wings, Darkness & Shooting Star We are here to become what can't be named
Mornings Son		#9	[-]
Seer Posts: 771 (06/16/09 11:55:36) Servant of Spirit Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Easy Wolf, please. There is not reason to state what is obvious. What I mean is that Nagual Lujan is the leader/teacher/master/guru archetype and then there is his followers. I don't really know how their relations is, but my feelings and impression is that they are a party lead by Lujan. That whats obvious! How wonderful the snow! Each flake falls in its place
Nagual LoneWolf		#10	[-]
Seer Posts: 5979 (06/16/09 15:01:44) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Many of the members of PP were banned from here for a few days as a cooling off period. I'll lift it soon. I'm not sure why they are so blind to his actions.
ARNWAY		#11	[-]
Seer Posts: 502 (06/18/09 13:37:32) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I would bet money that lujan has to by necessity to ban people that are real warriors as to not reveal his deception of his fictitious description that he made up to make money from the teachings of Don Juan.
mollymarie		#12	[-]
Warrior Posts: 134 (06/18/09 13:39:33) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wow is this stuff still going on? lmfao! hey all...hope you are treating life well!
docta lee		#13	[-]
Warrior Posts: 163 (06/18/09 14:50:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yeah you are prob right Arnway Too bad the Nagual itself could not put a stop to this kind of of shit at once!
ARNWAY		#14	[-]
Seer Posts: 503 (06/18/09 15:44:36) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello Molly, unfortunately it still is and not totally by choice since lujan wanted us to be on his site only to attack our integrity (Wolf and Myself) and then banned us both while claiming that he is the "THE ALL KNOWING NAGUAL" just last week. He kicked up the dirt not us while stating that Wolf is full of shit and myself is nothing but being abused as a child wanting attention. The way I see it is he can further isolate himself in his little corner of the web and have his group feed him his pacifier that he is the supreme leader of the "Nagual Community" as the all Knowing person that only he himself knows the truth.
Nagual LoneWolf		#15	[-]
Seer Posts: 5982 (06/19/09 07:48:31) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi MOLLY!!!!
iiop.parallelperception		#16	[-]
Member Posts: 3 (06/24/09 15:37:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	"when you apprentic to the nagual, you apprentice not to me but to your own infinite self" nagual = infinite self, not-anything, everything Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
iiop.parallelperception		#17	[-]
Member Posts: 4 (06/24/09 15:38:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	and recal there are two positions in the nagual, one of knowing nothing, the other of knowing everything. should be an easy switch really once ur there, ur the nagual too Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
iiop.parallelperception		#18	[-]
Member Posts: 5 (06/24/09 15:41:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	not here to judge. undecided on the nagual lujan something seems dicey still honest. and understand that we seek in others ONLY what we need for ourselves, controlled folly. meaning that why should a person be so concerned with another who they have already written off as without value? Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
ARNWAY		#19	[-]
Seer Posts: 513 (06/24/09 19:08:59) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	A true nagual would not act in such a foolish manner as Lujan has done and this tells me that he is not a nagual but a trickster to scam money from the C.C. community with his false mask. It is Lujan that started all this conflict years ago.
Nagual LoneWolf		#20	[-]
Seer Posts: 5984 (06/25/09 07:16:01) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Just a note. I was banned by Lujan from the PP forum for no reason or cause. What he claims against others is his mask of his own weakness. I would help him gain power over himself but he plays self deception. Such mental activity is common in psychopaths. Lujan has never faced his foreign installation and thus is under its hidden control.