Have anybody else seen this happening over there?
It is interesting that a person believes they can "create" a nagual when that is up to spirit and through genetic mutation.

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Nagual LoneWolf |
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Members from PP have informed me through private messages there is Naguals being created over at that site. They are assigned whether they are four or three or
two pronged and forming a pecking order on who can post and where.
Have anybody else seen this happening over there? It is interesting that a person believes they can "create" a nagual when that is up to spirit and through genetic mutation.
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can't say I Seen any energy configs of anybody over there, so that is hard to say.
Honestly I don't care whatever the do with each other. There are inspiring post sometimes and I like that. But there are many interesting sites, texts and people on the net. Why are Lujan important - because he claims to have a link to Don Juan? When One let go of ALL judgment
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Nagual LoneWolf |
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Lujan claims to have a link with Don Juan? Was not aware of that and if he is important or not important. I receive many emails and correspondence from people
all over the world. Many do not go to forums but stay in touch with me. Lately I have received private messages from members of PP who are advising me that
Lujan is manipulating the webs of sorcery. . I have some members he would never suspect writing me wanting me to do something or at least want to tell me what
he is doing in the secret private forums there.
They are afraid of him and his new direction. Many receive warning emails concerning events in their personal lives. I hate to see such a one using people on the path this way. Power can make one change in other directions away from the paths with heart. There are many dark naguals out there who would take all you have. We must be able to identify such ones. Never fear such ones never hide from such ones, their power is parasite bred.
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This is interesting news dark naguals may be everywhere but hide in fear of some nagual I dunno not my style. I am also banned from PP site due to me being
kida bitchy to the members there that think we are all alike. The truth is we are not equals and a mass dreaming chaotic comunity is not my type anyway, they
accused me of trying to make my party from amongst them when all i wanted was to know them and make friends. Yet they refused any attempt from me trying just
to know them, I dunno Lujan is ok but his members consider that forum their private place where newbies are unwanted. Fair play yet is their loss for refusing
to exchange experiences with some from here they might know something on nagual way more then they do.
PerSyd
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Nagual LoneWolf |
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Never hide , never fear.
Fear is the enemy that one must know. Lujan has another name..nagual.pperception also. |
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I did not have any contact with Lujan since he banned my ass lifetime.
But hey who knows what kind of people are his members i respect Lujan but his members I don't. One named Glance sent me black magic incantations now that is either black magician or follower of one, last year in august after i posted there on my pp first account seekergal. Thus I wanted still to be friends but guess they have a darkie circle over there I want no part of it, for curious people read Salman Rushdie the satanic versets that is what i got in a PM from a pp member in 2008 august.
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wolf, sorry i offended you before it was not my intention.
please stop saying these things you guys, i went and visited lujan in bali recently. he did not reveal to me my congiuration, i came forward to show him and he saw me, he would not direct that way you speak of, i am a three prong ( compartment, ) nagual. there are other naguals as well, lujan is powerful and kind. he is my teacher and friend and so are the others you speak of. there is no nagual making, black magic or controlling influence going on. we do not speak negatively of you, so please stop talking about us. please let this be the end. i'm not going to post here again. two lizards |
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2 lizards.. i am a relayer when the spins of others affecting the nagual web. Your testimony asks that we do not doubt Lujans intent. For now I await direction
of the spirit
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Two Lizards, I did not say Lujan was in that thing my personal oppinion is that he might not even know what some his members are up to.
But I come from a place where that is still used, and Glance Left did send me dark magic incatations in a PM hoping for me or someone else to get in that or nasty things to happen on someone. I will tell you more it was around the sun eclipse he sent me those, creepy stuff with instructions to read the verses out loud in a dark room. You might not know what some of the members do with nagual teachings, do not defend them cause they are into dark arts and they might have not sent you or Lujan yet he did send me and soon after i get banned over there,coincidence? Think twice about who your friends there are, cause they might have tryied it on you or someone else. I might tell you some of the effects as I leanred about them from older ones that know about it, as I heard from folks in my country many years ago.
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Honestly they did i even asked that dude Glance left to be my friend but he rejecting my proposal made the whole deal obvious.
That is not a joke a few of the members there are into black fist sorcery and use incantions like some folks in my country do. In case you are interested and a seer try and look at their double if it is like muddy water not clear one they do it try and see their pictures then agree or desagree with us. To a real nagual such a s Lujan or Wolf it's like clear water it reflects the seer looking at them but those wannabes look like a dirty pound muddy and greenish there are more not just one i counted 8 that changed their color since i had first contact with them soon it will be a yr.
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Nagual LoneWolf |
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There are dark naguals in the world. Masters of stalking and dreaming. They will kiss your hand and steal your breath. Smile and be heavenly while smothering
passions of violence. A half instructed sorcerer can kill you from around the world by linking his intent with the assemblage points of the lower bands of man
and the lines of the world. (To others it might be called a terrible accident but when the darkness came the driver couldn't see and was killed).
We are accessing something powerful practicing these beliefs. We are attracting power, many kinds of power. The ability to affect the roll of the dice can make one succumb to their new found power and use it on others and on the world. Toltec magic is only one type. There are many black magicians who raise hell and never read a word of Castaneda's. That is why I have always preached the path with heart as did Don Juan. The path with heart leads to purer forms of bindings with the world around us. The black path may lead to being a nagual, to mastering dreams, having allies etc but it is far down a path that only a few return. I speak from experience. |
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As you wish my friend.
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PerSyd |
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Erasing a post won't help you Lee if they started toying with you.
For more on this topic try santeria, satanism, voodoo or black magic. If one stayes calm in front of them the mirror like image reflects back on them what they do. Show no fear they cannot hurt you if you are as i see it mirror, but do as you wish.
PerSyd
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docta lee |
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Yeah for sure but i dont need them reading what i wrote...that could just add to the trouble
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You're welcome Lee whatever you wish is fine by me anyway. I am into eb changes study now i don't waist my time on the wannabes. They can't do much
harm to a nagual anyway they just sludge their own double with what they do. Pathetic cowards to resort to black arts like the superstisious pesants in the
country I was born in.
PerSyd
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When I read this thread it does not surprise me hearing what members hear are saying. I have been cautious about Lujan's intent because I knew that his
intent revolves only for his personal gain( like making people pay for his teachings) that are almost in practice too similar to that of D.J. example(his last
name Matus) but yet claims he is not related to his teachings.
The way I deal with it is just refer to him as Dan Jones because it is most likely closer to his real name, did you ever wonder why he changed his name to just "Nagual"? I personally don't need Lujan AKA Dan Jones and all his coolaid drinkers on the P.P. site that are spoon fed all that he dishes out, I just stay away from them and treat Lujan like a Jim Jones. |
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Greetings Tiffany and other members of PP. I hope we can be friends.
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Arrano, I dunno if Lujan is into dark side of the force my personal oppinion is that he is not, yet his members are out of control with that crap. Look at
their pictures some look like muddy pounds what they miss is frogs where i was born that crap si done by priests that actually clean their double cause they
make a living out of it. Those however got into dark because they are bored or something not cause they need money or something just becuase they can. Can you
post there we and i meen myself and wolf are lifetime banned but you might ask Lujan where the hell they got dark magic "need" from the nagual party
there.
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The veil Lujan has created creates suspicion thus he shows he may have something to hide from those who can see.
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All that I want to say is that the "intent" of Lujan or AKA Jim Jones does not reflect the path to freedom that I "personally" have chosen.
I after many years of knowing him I chosen not to have him influence me in any way and if members of this site or any other chose to then that is there choice
to listen to him as there "Nagual" and that is fine if that is what you want.
The problem that I had with Jim AKA Lujan---Whatever---is that he is not apart of the C.C. community and should distance him self from the C.C. family by falsely claiming to be apart of it since in his own words "independent from it" but spamming his "false" deceptive association by simularities to claim and muster up members to his "Cult" that are trying to dominate the C.C. websites. Lujan AKA Dan or Jim Jones--"whatever"--should be banished from the C.C. website Community since he does not reflect D.J or C.C. and with this consideration he needs to be banished from the teachings of D.J. club since he clearly stated that his teachings are from "Asian " decent and not Toltec because if he does not he is a total "Fucking Liar". D.J. teachings were of Toltec decent and not Asian"FACT"and unless Lujan AKA Jim will admit this he will be forever pinned down energetically with his false premise of his deception in the arena of energy that he uses to gain members and sheep. Lujan AKA Jim or Dan--Whatever--is giving the C.C. and D.J. community a black eye with his "Fucking Bullshit" that does not reflect D.J. with his false name of Lujan Matus which is the last name of Juan Matus and using it falsely to gain members to cater to his cult. Lujan you are a "ASS HOLE" for doing this and should be banned from every C.C. website you ass hole. |
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I think no one is interested in us from those at pp site let's just end this crap and leave them all to their fate whatever that might be. The rupture that
happened last year before the "merge" made the two forums and the members grow more apart from each other. I was still hoping that they would reply
and a merge would be possible yet none of that is interesting to either groups.
If it is to happen it will happen i was interested in a merge with those cause there are some good dreamers but there cannot be a union of two groups that hate their guts since before i came along.
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