The Integrity Of Lujan

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iiop.parallelperception		#21	[-]
Member Posts: 6 (06/25/09 12:42:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	now what do you mean by 'no reason or cause'? surely there was something cited? curious though, it would be a good way to make money from the cc community, but after reading the books sincerely the truths displayed are tangible and accurate, would you agree? not going to speculate but i did try to make a post regarding recapitulation techniques which he is supposed to be writing a book on, and he blocked the thread. like if you have already expressed that the heart is the source of all action then who needs anything else? seems like a ploy for money, rather than a genuine attempt to help people to understand things for themselves. but then here we are trying to discuss exactly that. we all see though, and have these moments of power where there is absolute certainty about something. do you get that with lujan in regards to his motivations? if so, is it not just a reflection of one's own self? i have integrity but certainly would write down some tips for somebody if it would make some money, not a fan of my job.... Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
iiop.parallelperception		#22	[-]
Member Posts: 7 (06/25/09 12:43:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	actually it seems like these forums are running out of fresh fuel, the concepts from the past have been turned over countless times and we should start planning for the future. Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
iiop.parallelperception		#23	[-]
Member Posts: 8 (06/25/09 12:45:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	i dont want to be just a visitor Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
Nagual LoneWolf		#24	[-]
Seer Posts: 5986 (06/25/09 15:00:36) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Hi iiop. The "visitor" changes after a certain amount of posts are made. I would gladly change the title if you would like. The forums will come and go with fuel. Often in the summer people are out and about and making their lives what they want. This forum has two main purposes. To introduce shamanic and nagual practices to new people and exchange with those who are more "into it" and to make people aware of the foreign installation. I like Lujan and have tried over the years to make friends with him but he refuses to even have a decent conversation with those that are not his "followers" or other seers. I do hope you and others at PP come here and interact with the members. All on the this spiritual path are always welcome. Last Edited By: Nagual LoneWolf 06/26/09 07:28:41. Edited 1 times.
mollymarie		#25	[-]
Warrior Posts: 135 (06/25/09 15:59:09) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Hi Wolfy.
Nagual LoneWolf	Nagual Pipeline	#26	[-]
Seer Posts: 5992 (06/26/09 13:51:47) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I receive emails and letters from people all over the world. In those letters many ask for guidance and/or for me to teach them about nagualism and to apply for apprenticeship. This has been going on since I made this site in 2001. There are many "seers" who write and communicate with me as well. When Lujan began his crusade to be the next Don Juan, he cause some concern in the nagual community. Most who belong to separate but related lineages of naguals know for certain Lujan is not a nagual and has never been a seer. I have received emails from those of the Jaguar Line that they were especially concerned he would falsely represent them. My lineage which is of the wolf and is the oldest nagual line. Ever stalking Lujan was an amusement on my part. If you look ..his site mirriors this one in many ways and he has learned alot in the last few years about creating internet forums by mimicking this one Last Edited By: Nagual LoneWolf 07/01/09 15:36:49. Edited 2 times.
iiop.parallelperception		#27	[-]
Member Posts: 9 (06/30/09 16:50:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	how have you met all these lines? the title is fine too because thats what we all are, visitors. but i am a warrior and sometimes a seer Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
Nagual LoneWolf		#28	[-]
Seer Posts: 5993 (07/01/09 15:38:12) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I have met some but my travels to Mexico have been brief and were back in the seventies when I was researching nagualism. Seers and warriors, gotta love them for they are the fruit of the eagle.
iiop.parallelperception		#29	[-]
Member Posts: 10 (07/02/09 16:03:04) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	mmmm.... sweet fruit. speaking of, who has seen that eye? or the eagle? crazy. Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
ARNWAY		#30	[-]
Seer Posts: 525 (07/03/09 20:30:22) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I can not speak for anybody other than myself and that is Lujan does not have enough integrity or impeccability to be my leader and I can prove my conviction in great detail if you all want me so to illustrate.
dancingmoon.parallelperception		#31	[-]
Visitor Posts: 2 (07/04/09 05:54:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	golly gosh my word i provided a link in my post and lone wolf removed it are you afraid that people will see what happenned? on PP forum if you are going to badmouth someone better give all the details hey? when you follow the link you will find there is a discussion armway started don't be scared let everybody see and don't keep editing me
Nagual LoneWolf		#32	[-]
Seer Posts: 6008 (07/05/09 16:06:50) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I am not afraid of such nonsense. I removed the link because I do not wish such links left here for a false site with a false representative of nagualism. You are here and not under the domain of Lujan. Be careful with your words or they/you will be removed. As for following the link...I am banned entirely from your dumbass forum. Lone Wolf
iiop.parallelperception		#33	[-]
Member Posts: 11 (07/06/09 08:40:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	wow. the nagual is everywhere. nobody can prove their own integrity or nagualhood. why censor people's ability to decide for themselves? unless it's folly. is it? and if it is let's laugh. Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
Nagual LoneWolf		#34	[-]
Seer Posts: 6012 (07/07/09 12:17:27) Visitor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Truer words were never spoken. People should always decide for themselves. Lujan wants to lead you. I believe you should lead you.
mollymarie		#35	[-]
Warrior Posts: 136 (07/07/09 13:36:44) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	heres a novel idea. how about people let spirit lead them? Why dont they chose that path? because its hard and people dont want to follow if it doesnt suit their agendas and their egos. I am speaking this to nobody but myself. Although Im sure its true for all who know of spirit, see spirit, and yet walk another direction.
iiop.parallelperception		#36	[-]
Member Posts: 12 (07/07/09 16:58:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	True that, spirit rules. Two horses, swiftest travelling, Harnessed in a pair, and Grazing ever in places Distant from them.
Mornings Son		#37	[-]
Seer Posts: 803 (07/08/09 00:16:15) Servant of Spirit Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	The path told by spirit Oh to be clear in Mind to hear the whispers To brave enough to follow Thanks Molly for bringer Spirit into the conversation Wings, Darkness & Shooting Star We are here to become what can't be named
ARNWAY		#38	[-]
Seer Posts: 526 (07/08/09 12:46:55) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Dancingmoon wrote;----------see what happenned? on PP forum if you are going to badmouth someone better give all the details hey? when you follow the link you will find there is a discussion armway started don't be scared let everybody see and don't keep editing me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'll try and be nice when reading what you wrote because you are ignorant considering you are defending Lujan. You want me to illustrate Lujan's faults, you just opened up a can of shit, since I'm also banned from the P.P. site because Lujan is "WEAK" as a self made nagual that is "Bogus" and is fraudulent with his claim with what he said in his book. 1. Lujan systematically used the syntax or description of the teachings of Don Juan from Carlos and used different terminology which is "ASIAN" and went on all the C.C. websites to get "MONEY" with his bogus claim that he is a nagual. 2. Lujan Matus is such a control freak that he will bann anybody because he is too weak to answer any inquiry about his claim. 3. Lujan in just a couple of years has pissed away his creditabilty as a leader and is backed in his closet by his own doings with all the other naguals. 4. Lujan has not have the "NUT SACK" to come here and take my inquiry on about his bogus claim of his stature. I could go on and on with facts that anybody that can clearly see that is not brainwashed by Lujan the "IDIOT" that is giving the C.C. community a bad representation with his bullshit.
ARNWAY		#39	[-]
Seer Posts: 527 (07/08/09 17:48:52) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Try this approach with Lujan and this is really simple to do. Treat him as if he is not the nagual that he claims to be and not give him with the benefit of the dought that he is "all knowing" and you will see him as he really is and this is how it should be. Give it a try. It is only a matter of time before Lujan will be humbled and put in his place with the C.C. community because he does not have any respect other than his own site. Last Edited By: ARNWAY 07/08/09 18:24:13. Edited 1 times.
mollymarie		#40	[-]
Warrior Posts: 137 (07/09/09 10:07:49) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	4. Lujan has not have the "NUT SACK" to come here and take my inquiry on about his bogus claim of his stature. LOL. You crack me up Arnway Its not really about the sack is it? a midgit could live in a huge house it doesnt mean he is 10 foot tall. Although, a 10 ft tall man couldnt live in a house with only 8 ft tall ceilings. lmfao.

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